Episode 142

Adam Levine | League Of Fat Bastards Cigars Contribute to Mental Well-Being | Box Press Ep. 142

This cigar podcast could save your or a loved one's life.

Following his own mental health crisis, Adam Levine founded the League of Fat Bastards Cigars. The boutique Nicaraguan cigar brand gives away 40% of its profits to men's mental health initiatives; hosts events where men can get real about their lives; and encourages intentional discussions about mental health over cigars.

Interview by Drew Emmer at PCA 2024, the preeminent event for premium cigar and pipe industry.

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00:00 This is Box Press

00:24 How did the League of Fat Bastards Cigars get its name?

00:45 Creating space for men to chew the fat

01:23 Organize cigar events with celebs and athletes to normalize mental health struggles

01:47 LOFB Cigars gives back 40% of profits to men's mental health groups

02:15 Using cigar smoking as therapy

03:10 Living in London in the heyday of Cuban Cigars

03:34 Adam Levine had a severe mental breakdown

04:46 Create a movement to help men live their best lives

05:16 Only cigar brand produced over Zoom?

05:51 The Goldilocks cigar blend, Serie L made in Nicaragua

06:40 League of Fat Bastards is an everyman cigar on purpose

07:06 What cigar should your first cigar be?

07:26 Discover the joy of cigars and provide an opportunity for men to open up emotionally

09:20 Why did this happen FOR me?

10:56 LOFB Cigars packaged with Boveda

11:50 Reusing Boveda packets from cigar boxes

12:22 Keeping cigars at the perfect humidity maintains their condition

13:13 If you are experiencing a mental health crisis, call or text 988

Transcript
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- I like that.

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Hey, you can sing; I like that.

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He's got a sweet voice.

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♪ I get so emotional, baby ♪

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- Maybe that was my calling.

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- Yeah, I think you missed that, man.

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- And here I am at PCA

talking to Adam Levine.

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And this is, without question,

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the most enjoyable thing

that I'm gonna say all day.

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- Yes sir.

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- The League of Fat Bastards.

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- Thank you kindly.

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- You gotta tell this story.

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How did that happen,

League of Fat Bastards?

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- Okay, so I think the best way

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to introduce the whole concept

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is to firstly understand

our mission of why we exist.

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100% of the reason why we exist

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is to make a positive global

impact on men's mental health.

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The name League of Fat

Bastards, very simple,

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comes from our belief that

we need to find a new way

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for men to chew the fat, right?

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So chewing the fat, little bit

of an Aussie colloquialism,

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- Ah, chewing the fat.

- It's sitting down,

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and chewing the fat,

having a conversation.

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- We're chewing the fat!

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- We're chewing the fat right now, man.

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- Right now in real time.

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- In between you singing

and sort of serenading me

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and telling me how nice

I smell, which I love.

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It's all good, and I appreciate that.

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So, seriously the whole

brand is predicated 100%

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around supporting men's mental health.

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It's a very serious

process that we go through.

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We do that primarily

through organizing a range

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of on-premise events,

where we will bring in

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high profile individuals,

sportspeople, personalities,

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and get them to share their journey

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that they've been through

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so that it can start to

normalize that conversation

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amongst the men that are there.

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So the other really important

part of what we do, Drew,

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is that we give back

40%, that's 4-0 percent.

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- Four zero?

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- Four zero percent of

the profits that we make

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from the sale of our cigars

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to NGOs and organizations

that support war vets,

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that support first responders,

that support nurses,

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medical staff, EMTs-

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- All those trauma people.

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- All those individuals who

are of service to others

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but are suffering themselves.

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- So we believe that there's

an opportunity for us

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to use the camaraderie around cigars

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as a way of creating a

movement to help others

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deal with that trauma.

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- Beautiful.

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- That's the core mission,

man; that's what we're about.

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It's very simple.

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- And with that being said,

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if that's your purpose,

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if your primary purpose is

not to sell a pile of cigars-

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- No, you're wrong!

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Our primary purpose, and I'm gonna swear,

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is to sell a shit-load of cigars.

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Because the more cigars we

sell, the more profit we make,

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the more money we give back!

- More money you give

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to the cause, yeah.

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- Oh my God, I wanna sell

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millions of cigars.

- So how'd you get

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onto cigars in the first place?

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- So, yeah, interesting story,

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I started in cigars being

a passionate cigar smoker

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when I was 25 years old.

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I'm 53, thank you very much.

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- You look good.

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- Thank you very much.

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- Yeah, nicely done.

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- Thank you.

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And I was living in London

with my wife at the time,

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and it was the heyday of the Cuban cigars,

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and I was living in a very famous street

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called Jermyn Street, J-E-R-M-Y-N,

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where JJ Fox [James J Fox] is.

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And I remember going in

there for the first time.

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I was blown away.

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Long story short,

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that passion continued

all the way through,

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but the reality is that in 2019,

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I had a very severe

mental episode, myself.

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I had a breakdown, and I was suicidal,

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and it was a very difficult period for me.

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But part of the recovery

process, believe it or not,

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was some lessons that were told to me

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around how to get through that.

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A couple of those were things like,

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"Adam, stop and smell the roses."

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"Adam, don't be afraid to be selfish

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"and take some time out

to be kind to yourself."

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"Adam, find an opportunity

to declutter your life.

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Make things simple."

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And amazingly for me,

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I was actually able to

achieve those things

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when I was sitting and enjoying my cigars,

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stopping to smell the roses,

obviously appreciating,

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being mindful about the 300

hands that touch the cigar

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all the way through the process,

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enjoying conversations with men,

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other buddies who were cigar aficionados

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or cigar connoisseurs.

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And so, when I got through the

other side of that process,

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I suddenly thought, hey, why

don't we do something positive?

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Let's do something different with cigars.

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Why can't we use that as an opportunity

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to create a movement of people

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who want to help men get through life,

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and live their best life into the future?

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So that's what was the instigation.

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That's how we started it.

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- When did you start this?

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- We officially launched in the U.S.

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on the 17th of February.

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We've been distributing

for a little while in Asia

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out of Singapore,

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but it had been a two-year project.

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I think we're probably

the only cigar brand

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that's been produced over Zoom

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because I was in Australia

and Joya, as you know,

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up in Nicaragua, and it was

the back end of the pandemic,

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so there was no travel.

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So Juan Martínez is just

the most amazing individual.

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That family is fantastic.

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I can't tell you how appreciative I am

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of them and what they've done.

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They're great people.

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They, basically, would send me samples,

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and then, Juan and I would

be on the Zoom together,

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and we'd actually be

talking through the blends.

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And we did that through about

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sort of 10 or 15 different blends,

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and we came to what I

call the Goldilocks Blend.

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So it's something-

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- This is the Goldilocks Blend?

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- That's what I call it.

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- The Serie L.

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- Serie L.

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- So the Goldilocks Blend, Serie L,

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we're gonna have a Serie

O, we'll have a Serie F,

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we'll have a Serie B, yeah?

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- But the Goldilocks

Blend for this, for me...

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Well, you tell me.

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- No, I'm impressed.

- You tell me.

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- This is a delicious cigar.

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Immediately my brain starts

going, okay, who's making it?

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I have-

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- Well, it's Joya that makes it.

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Joya de Nicaragua, right?

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So they're the manufacturers.

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So it's got a 100%

Nicaraguan filler and binder,

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so mixture of Estelí and

Jalapa filler and binder.

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It's got an Ecuadorian

Habanos:

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- It's yummy.

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- Thank you so much, and that's the idea.

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The idea was, and I call it Goldilocks,

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so I wanted it to be an everyman cigar

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because importantly for

us, given our mission,

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we wanted to be able to cater

for both those individuals

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who were rare cigar enthusiasts,

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and those that were

serious cigar enthusiasts.

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So someone that would enjoy

cigars on an irregular basis

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wouldn't find this offensive.

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They would say it's approachable.

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They would say it's not-

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- Well, you're not gonna get blown away

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if you've never had a cigar,

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and you end up having your first.

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If this is your first cigar,

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you're gonna love cigars

for the rest of your life.

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- Thank you.

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I really, really, really-

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I can't tell you how much

effort was put into that.

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- That's accessible.

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I think that's all

about, creating something

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where you can discover the joy of cigars.

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It's interesting because

Joya de Nicaragua,

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the joy of Nicaragua.

- Absolutely.

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- You're talking about,

discovering the joy of cigars.

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And we've had more than a

few people sit in that chair

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and repeat the mantra in this industry:

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This is not a cigar.

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This is a moment in time

shared between friends.

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That's gold!

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- Absolutely.

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- Especially if guys get real.

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- And that's what I wanna do.

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I wanna take it to the next level

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because the camaraderie

in the cigar sector

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and the cigar industry is

strong, as you know, right?

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So for us, for me, it was

an obvious avenue for me

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to use that camaraderie

to provide the education

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and to provide the opportunity

for people to then open up.

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The problem is that guys

get together, you know,

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we'll have a drink, we'll have a chat.

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Sometimes things come out,

sometimes they don't come out.

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But as you know, in a social

circumstance, it's interesting.

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He or she who talks first

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generally sets the tone

of the conversation,

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and so our aim is when we

have our guest speakers

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and we go deep quick,

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it brings that mood into a serious state

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where it's deep quick

so people can open up.

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We also provide,

interestingly, online resources

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where people can actually, you know,

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go to read a little bit about, understand.

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We're gonna create actual

physical location resources

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where people will be

able to get information.

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So we want to create this community

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where not only are you enjoying the cigar,

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not only are you learning to open up,

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but you actually have additional resources

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that can go back as well, right?

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So it's a closed-end solution.

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- Chewing the fat.

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- Love it, man.

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- Beautiful.

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What a great idea.

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- Thank you so much.

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- What a unique angle on what

cigars can do for people.

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- And d'you know, it's funny you say for.

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So this is a really interesting concept,

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and everyone should try this.

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So we all go through shit

times, a 100%, right?

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We all have a shitty day.

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There's all that crap happens,

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and we say, "Oh, why the

hell did this happen?"

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You know, "Oh, woe is me, woe is me."

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You know, "Why me?"

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Rather than saying, why

did this happen to me,

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I think we need to change that and say,

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why did this happen for me.

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So you look at a circumstance

like we went through,

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or I went through, and I sort

of say it was a terrible,

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terrible dark place, but

I look back and I say,

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well, why did this happen for me?

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And I can see now why it happened for me

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because it gave me the opportunity

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to create this amazing brand

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and to start to do some good in the world.

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You know, when people say they

finally found their purpose?

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- Yeah.

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You found your purpose.

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- I reckon I have.

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- That's beautiful.

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- And quite genuinely, and I love it.

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And it's so important to me

to be able to be passionate

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and interested in something.

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I can't believe that we can,

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that I can do something like this

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and also create some good in the world.

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Like it really fills me with joy.

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I've got-

- No, it's terrific.

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It's terrific.

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It's League of Fat Bastards.

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40% of the profits, sales of this product

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are going to support those

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that have been traumatized

in our emergency services.

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- Correct, those that serve us.

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- Veterans, people that have served us.

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We're gonna serve them back,

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give them an opportunity to talk.

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Oh, and look at this!

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- Boveda.

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- They're packaged with Boveda!

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- And we do that, and I have to say,

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the Boveda company, how

do you pronounce it?

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- I say Boveda, but we

don't care what you say.

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- You don't care?

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- No, you can say-

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- the "B Company."

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- The B Company.

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- The B company, the big B?

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- The big B.

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- The big B, the one we all love,

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have been amazing in their support for us.

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- Be the B.

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- Be the B! (laughs)

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I gotta say, seriously, the

crew that you guys have got

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are fantastic.

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They're a great team.

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They're a hundred percent

supportive of what we're doing.

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We actually deliberately decided in this,

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and I'm gonna take a big risk right now-

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- Go ahead.

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- And open this box.

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Ah, look at that!

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So we have in here

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a large 69.

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- Yeah, it's good.

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And it's still supple;

it's hanging in there.

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- So what we decided though,

was to put the large bag in,

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Not the small.

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A lot of retailers will use

the smaller sort of bags,

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which is fine.

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- But they can repurpose this.

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They take it out of this box,

they put it in their humidor,

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they can-

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- Exactly, it's gonna

last for a long time.

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Talk about repurpose,

it's very interesting.

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I saw a photo from someone

who had bought a box of ours,

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and I saw them with a

whole range of cigars

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in one of the League

of Fat Bastards boxes,

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and I thought that was so cool.

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People are reusing our box

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because it's a nice

cool little box you can-

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- It's a very cool box.

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- It's got the, you know,

the magnetic sort of open.

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But for us, you know, the

humidification process

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is actually quite a serious business

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because number one, it's

about quality, right?

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So in my mind, people can

get interested in the cigar

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because of obviously our

mission and what we do,

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but people will come

back and buy the cigar

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because it's a good cigar.

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And part of that is making

sure the product we deliver

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to our customers, to our

clients, is in perfect condition,

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is maintained well, and clearly,

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the right humidification is part of that,

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particularly as we're

shipping around the world

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and moving things around.

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So, our partnership with

Boveda is super important,

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and we really do appreciate it.

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- What a privilege for us

to be involved in this.

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You know, we love Juan Martinez

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and all the people at Joya de Nicaragua.

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They're class act.

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I'm thrilled to have a chance to meet you

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and talk about this very unique angle

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on what cigars can do for us.

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