Caldwell Lost & Found Cigar Showdown: Big Brother, Little Brother

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- I can't take it anymore, Harry.

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We got no food, we got no jobs.

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- Our pet's heads are falling off.

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That's kind of fitting.

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Blind Man's Bluff.

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Then, they gave the bird to a blind man.

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- Petey, you sold my dead bird to a blind kid?

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- Harry, I took care of it.

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- Pretty bird.

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Pretty bird.

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- I love it when he is on the news.

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- We'll be back in a minute with the heartbreaking story

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of the blind Rhode Island boy

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who was duped into buying a dead parakeet.

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- I just thought he was real quiet.

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- There's a story inside every smoke shop

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with every cigar and with every person.

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Come be a part of the cigar lifestyle at Boveda.

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This is Box Press.

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(uplifting music playing)

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Welcome to another episode of Box Press.

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I'm your host, Rob Gagner.

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- And, I'm your other host, Nate Beck.

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- And, today, we are continuing on

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with our Big Brother, Little Brother series

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where we are trying to figure out if in a cigar line,

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if they have like a bottom end,

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more economically friendly cigar,

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and a high end more not economically friendly cigar,

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but very similar,

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to see if you can kind of bounce between the two,

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or if you want something a little bit more celebratory,

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you can do that,

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or if you really like the celebratory stick,

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but you can't afford to always smoke that,

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you can go down to the budget friendly stick.

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- Yep.

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- So, we kind of had to...

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I don't know, we pushed down the boundaries

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a little bit this time,

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because we're doing Caldwell,

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but we're also doing Lost & Found.

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There are extensions of each other, I would say,

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but overall they're definitely not from the same, I guess,

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company.

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- Right.

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- So...

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- They're sort of like adjacent companies, right?

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- Yeah.

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We're pushing the boundaries a little bit.

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The consistency is Robert Caldwell, right?

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- Mm-hmm.

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- With Lost & Found, you bring in Tony.

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- Tony Bellato.

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- Bellato who does a ton of stuff.

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He has a really cool coffee company

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that we were actually just looking up,

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Youngstown Coffee Company.

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- Yeah, based outta Youngstown, Ohio.

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- And, amazing like single origin Ethiopian.

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You can get like a full pound for 20 bucks.

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- That's a good deal.

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- Shout out to Tony.

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We just got off the phone with him actually,

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because we were trying to figure out

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what the heck is going on

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with this 22 Minutes to Midnight series,

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because the Maduro,

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which we have--

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- Which you can see that here.

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- Here is 11:38

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and then the other one that's Robert Caldwell's blend

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is 23:38.

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And, apparently,

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this whole series came about,

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because when they were first starting Lost & Found,

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Tony was getting some of these cigars from Robert,

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and Robert was saying, here, smoke these,

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let me know what you think.

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Now, these are all cigars that were already pre-rolled.

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They were just sitting there,

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and they thought, well,

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there's not enough for any one major brand to do anything.

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But, these guys thought, hey,

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maybe we could bring these to the world.

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Well, Tony ended up smoking,

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I think he said the Pepper Cream Soda.

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And, he... I think you're right.

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He texted or called Robert at 22 Minutes to Midnight saying,

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we gotta do something with this.

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It's too good to just like let it go undiscovered,

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or unshared,

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or any of that.

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So, that was basically the foundation

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of what started Lost & Found.

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Now, come full circle.

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- Delicious.

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- These two cigars that are 22 Minutes to Midnight.

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There's four in the entire line, there's Connecticut,

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we got the Habano, then there's a Criollo.

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- Criollo, yeah.

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- Criollo.

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- Corojo?

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Corojo, maybe?

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- Corojo, no Criollo sounds right.

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- Let's...

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Coro...

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Oh.

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Criollo.

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- Criollo is the 22 Minutes to Noon.

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- Yeah, and then the Maduro, that's what we have.

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- Yep.

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- Sorry, can't keep them all straight.

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- So, there's two in each,

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two in the 22 Minutes to Noon and two versions

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in the 22 Minutes to Midnight.

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- Right, but they're all labeled as 22 Minutes to Midnight.

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Just the number changes

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and the person who signed it--

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- Oh, cool.

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- Anthony Bellato,

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Tony Bellato signed the 11:38 boxes.

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Those are the blends that he did.

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And, the 23:38s, that Connecticut

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and Habano are the ones that Robert did.

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I love Habano.

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So, you were smoking this one, the gold band 23:38,

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by Robert.

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It's the Habano.

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You said this is really good.

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I was like, oh really? - It's fantastic.

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Yeah.

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- I said we should do a Big Brother Little Brother series,

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because it's like a $19 stick roughly, you know?

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So, then we came up with the Blind Man's Bluff,

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the Habano and the Maduro.

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And, in fact, it's working really, really well.

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All of these are smoking really well together

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and I don't think they intentionally did any of that at all.

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- Yeah, so we've got Blind Man's Bluff here

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and the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano here.

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And--

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- You know, there was no intention,

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like we're the ones doing this, not them.

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Like they don't know,

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like, oh yeah, that's a...

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- And, yeah, and according to Tony,

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the tobaccos that are in the 22 Minutes to Midnight cigars

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are 15- to 18-year-old tobaccos.

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- On average.

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- On average.

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- So, that's the average.

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- And, according to a couple of other sites

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I was looking at,

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some of the cigars,

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the age actually can push closer to 25 years.

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So, that's the average age of these tobaccos.

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- And, I was asking him,

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I'm like oftentimes when a company will tell

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20-year-aged tobacco,

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I'm like, yeah, whatever,

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like how much?

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But, what he's saying is that it's a majority.

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That's why the average comes down to like 15 years,

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because they're trying to use all the tobacco

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that's basically been kind of overlooked.

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I said, well, what's the premise of that?

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And, he's like, well,

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if you're a bigger cigar company,

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you are not gonna make a box, a band,

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and a brand for 20,000 sticks, 5,000 sticks.

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But, these guys will,

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because the whole premise is to just say, hey,

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this is something that could be done,

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and make a band out of it and release it.

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So, I think one of the cool things about Lost & Found

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is this opportunity to try some unique stuff,

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but it's also probably some stuff

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that you may not ever be able to get again.

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- Yeah.

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- Hence the whole Lost, Found,

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and then they should almost finish it with like,

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well, Gone again.

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Like, just gone.

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- That's the next brand, Gone Again.

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- Gone again, because it's...

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It's not coming back.

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- Yeah.

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I will say, Rob,

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this is the first time where we've smoked multiple cigars,

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where I really feel like all four of these cigars

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are forming a really cool combination of flavors.

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Like everything really is pairing very, very well.

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Would you agree?

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- Yeah.

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And, I was hesitant to do all four of these,

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because I wanted to do the Maduros up against each other

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and the Habanos up against each other.

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But, now I find myself cutting across,

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like Habanos and Maduros,

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and it's like,

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it's still working really well,

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which is really surprising to me,

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because even on this 11:38 Maduro,

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this is a Mexican San Andreas Maduro,

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whereas the Blind Man's Puff...

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Bluff. - Bluff, yep.

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- Bluff.

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That is a broad leaf Maduro.

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- Gotcha, which is a pretty...

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- A big difference.

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- Huge dramatic difference in flavor, yeah.

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- Yeah, big, big, big difference.

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We're not even like really sticking with the same leaf here.

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We're just...

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- And, Rob, I just noticed on the side of the band here,

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it's got Danlí Honduras?

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- Yeah, that's what I was saying.

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I think they're all made in...

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But then they also have some Nicaragua stuff.

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But, it just could be that they're all rolled in Honduras.

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- Yeah, all four of these are really good.

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I agree with you.

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For sure, these Blind Man's Bluffs.

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Either one of these is box worthy.

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- Totally.

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- Totally box worthy.

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- I've always...

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I've always had...

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What are they going for a stick?

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I'll have to look on a different website here real quick.

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- I bet these are, what?

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Eight, $9 a stick,

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somewhere in that wheelhouse?

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- Well, I got an invoice right here.

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What did I pay for them?

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Dammit, I have to do math.

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- What do we got there, four?

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- 34 bucks?

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- So, 35 bucks, you got...

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- Yeah.

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- Eight bucks, 8.50.

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- So, yeah.

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I mean less than $10.

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And, I've always--

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- Basically, we'll say $9 a stick.

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- I've always had an affinity towards the Blind Man.

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The...

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I don't think I've had anything in there,

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although I don't know if I've had a ton of stuff,

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because there is quite a bit,

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more than I thought.

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They have a Connecticut.

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Didn't know that.

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- There's a lot of options

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- They have a Nicaraguan, didn't know that.

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And, then the Maduro,

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so I've only had the Maduro and the Habano.

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- These are really great.

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- I'd be tempted to try the other ones for sure,

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based on my experience.

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- I think we need to get a purchase order together, Rob.

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- Oh, yeah, totally.

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- Yeah, for science.

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- For science.

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- Yeah, it's...

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Seems like the right thing to do.

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- And, shout out to Zach who sent us a box of the Maduros.

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We appreciate you.

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Thank you very much, buddy.

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- And, we got another cigar waiting in the wings

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that we'll have to do something special with.

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- Yeah, that was a tough one.

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And, it's...

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Should we just...

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Should we name it?

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- We should. We should.

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- It's the, what is the name of it?

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- Long Live The Queen.

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- Long Live The Queen.

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- It's absolutely spectacular.

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- Unbelievable.

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- Spectacular.

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- But, the wrapper on that is Cameroon.

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So, it's like there's no...

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There's no Big Brother Little Brother.

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and there's nothing inside Caldwell's repertoire

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that's like anything Cameroon.

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- It's just really special.

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- So, I was like,

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well, what are we gonna do with that?

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- I'm a...

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Like you are with Habano,

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I'm a nut for Cameroon Wrapper I have found as of late.

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- So, we're gonna obviously do something with that cigar,

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but what should we do with it?

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Go ahead and put some comments in the YouTube

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or wherever you find this.

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You can even send us emails at info@bovedainc.com.

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What should we do with Long Live the Queen?

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drop us a a message on Instagram.

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- It's Boveda_Rob and Boveda_Nate.

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- Let us know what you think, because-

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- Yeah, give us some ideas.

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- I got an idea possibly of putting it up

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against some other Cameroons.

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- I was just thinking that.

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- But, I'm not sure if that's gonna be like,

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I'd like to hear what other people are interested in.

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Is it putting up against other Cameroons?

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Is it putting up against other things in that Caldwell line,

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like Long Live The King?

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Because he has a bunch there, too.

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It's like...

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And, there were so many like small things

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that he's done with Long Live The King,

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The King Is Dead.

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There were a ton of different things on Small Batch

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that I saw.

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It was like holy cow.

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Like all of this is just a ton of different blends.

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In my opinion I have no idea where it all starts

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and that's where Caldwell gets a little confusing for me.

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It's like where with everything going on,

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what is it, where is it from,

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and how do I obtain it?

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Because, it's hard.

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- I like it.

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And, it also can be confusing, the...

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There's not a lot of ubiquity

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in their different brand lines

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or their different product lines.

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But, I think it's super cool,

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because it's so creative.

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- Super creative. - But, it's...

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It's hard to classify like families of these cigars,

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because they're...

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A lot of them seem to be,

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I don't wanna use the term one-off,

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but they're sort of standalone.

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- That's a great question to everyone out there is like,

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do you even like cigars that are,

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let's just say,

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let's take the Lost & Found for instance.

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Do you like that or not?

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I personally like it.

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- I do, too.

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- Because, I get to try something

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probably that punches way above it's price point,

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and no one else is going to do anything with that tobacco,

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because it's so limited.

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- Wait, you...

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- But, then it negates the fact that I'm like,

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oh, I really like.

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- I know.

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- Can I buy a box?

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Probably not.

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- And, you get to the end of a cigar,

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like those Lost & Found antique selections,

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which you and I were both fortunate enough

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to smoke through a bunch of those,

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and you get partway through the cigar,

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and you think I better like consciously think about

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enjoying all of this,

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because I'm not getting this again.

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So, you want to like...

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You wanna make sure you remember what that tasted like.

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- We got that in our...

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My Cigar Pack.

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That was super, super nice to try all those cigars.

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And, what Tony said about those cigars

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is as the Antique Line

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is the year that the cigar was rolled

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is what was on the band.

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So, not the age of the cigar necessarily.

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Like the tobaccos might be even way older.

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So, like some of those had like 2003.

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- Yeah.

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- Like...

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- 2012, 2014, early 2000s.

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- That's a 20-year-old stick.

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- Stick, but the tobacco is much older than that, yeah.

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- I don't...

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That's...

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So, there's a give and take there.

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It's like, oh, really cool,

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a opportunity to try something,

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and then it's also like, dang it,

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I really like it.

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Can I get more?

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No. - No.

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- So, that's why I say it has to finish with the Gone.

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- Yes.

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- Lost, Found,

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Gone. - Gone.

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- See ya, not coming back.

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- Goodbye.

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- But, it is...

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When we were just talking to Tony,

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the Lost & Found series

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he's said was kind of,

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it's pretty much done.

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There's not like a ton of tobacco

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or cigars sitting around anymore.

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What they're gonna do now is roll cigars

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with aged tobacco that's just sitting around,

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and doesn't have a lot of play in major cigar brands.

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And, then they're gonna make cigars

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just like these 22 Minutes to Midnight.

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So, this is pretty much the the new launch.

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- Yeah, which is a cool idea.

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- Yeah, amazing.

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- Because, they're...

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They're...

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I got to imagine tobacco producers or brokers

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have lots of tobacco that could make a few thousand boxes.

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And, those are prime territory for smaller producers,

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because they're able to do lots like that

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and do a limited run of cigars,

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which I think is really cool,

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but a Fuente and a Davidoff,

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they're not gonna do that,

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unless they're just putting out a very limited cigar.

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They just aren't gonna do that.

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They're not gonna take a run with that.

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- You and I smoked the $500 Davidoff Oro Blanco.

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Extremely unique stick.

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- Yes.

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- You can already tell with,

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not that this is anywhere close to that,

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but you can start to tell refinement

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out of tobacco, aged tobacco,

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and I can tell right here

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like between the Blind Man's Bluff and these,

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there's a different set of refinement.

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So, I am able to taste a difference in quality.

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What I like about this one though in particular

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is the quality and refinement is much more muted.

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Like you can really jump between them

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and not be like, whoa--

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- Absolutely.

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- When we did the video of like,

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Can You Taste Quality in a Cigar?

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- Yes.

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- That Alfonso like hung out on its own on an island.

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I was like these cigars out can't even touch it,

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which I think is unique here,

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where I'm that Blind Man's Puff is approaching this,

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hands down, very easily.

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- Yeah, like I've noticed in these four cigars,

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of the four,

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the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro,

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really the only difference I'm getting

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between the other three

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is it's got just a little more kind of pepperiness

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sharpness on the retro hale,

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and then this would be next,

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and then these two are just really soft and creamy

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on the retro hale.

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Like there's just none of that pepperiness,

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none of that burn,

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just really beautiful cigars.

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But, all four of these have this like underlying creaminess

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that just all plays well together.

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It'd be like having four different versions of,

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I don't know,

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like a latte or coffee.

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Maybe... - Right.

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- Maybe, these are just coffee with more or less cream.

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One might be a little stronger coffee,

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one might be a little bit more mellow,

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and these are like a beautiful, I don't know,

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cappuccino or latte,

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that's gonna have that just really soft creaminess

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that everything just blends together.

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- You're talking about

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the 22 Minutes to Midnight? - The 22 Minutes to Midnight.

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Yeah.

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- Yeah, yeah--

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- Tony made a great point in talking about age.

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Age doesn't always mean better,

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because in a lot of things that people consume

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with significant age on them,

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cigars, wine specifically,

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spirits,

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there is a point at which, at a certain age,

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the flavors start to drop off and you get more muted,

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kind of...

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He used a great description like musty, smell of a basement,

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kind of earthy, minerally,

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chalky flavors that are just kind of muted,

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and, but if you get it at the age

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where everything has really come together,

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then it's spectacular.

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- Yeah, that Blind Man's Bluff Maduro is sharp on the retro.

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- It's so hard to not say Blind Man's Puff.

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- Yeah, man.

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I'm struggling really hard over here.

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Blind Man's Bluff. - Bluff.

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Bluff.

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The BMB.

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- And, it must be because of the Blind Man's Puff website.

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- Yes, of course.

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Of course.

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The...

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- Now, we're smoking four cigars.

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It's hard to keep them all lit and straight in my head.

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Just went from the Habano Blind Man

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to the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano.

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Ugh, that's good.

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It's funny how they don't compete with each other.

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- No.

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- Which we've experienced before,

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where it's like, okay,

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one is more harsh,

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more astringent, maybe.

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- These are like an all nice round flavor.

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- Yeah.

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I think of the two Blind Man's Bluffs,

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I always gravitate towards the Habano,

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but I think it's nostalgic for me.

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- The Maduro

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or the Habano is nostalgic? - The Habano.

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- Yeah.

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It was like one of the first cigars I picked up,

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but I was like, oh my God this is really good.

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- I remember the first time I had a Caldwell cigar

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was from James down at Burn.

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- Sure.

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- Yeah, he was the one that introduced me

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to Caldwell Cigars.

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This would've been, boy,

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probably close to 10 years ago now.

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- Do you remember which one you smoked?

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- Blind Man's Bluff was the first one.

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- Which...

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Which one?

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- Boy, that I don't remember.

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I do know I also had the Eastern Standard,

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which I just smoked one of those yesterday.

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Another great cigar.

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The Eastern Standard was like,

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I'll often say if a cigar is like perfumy,

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I'll say it tastes like a good cologne or a good fragrance.

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And, that Eastern Standard has a lot of that,

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because fragrances will have woody notes,

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they'll have earthy notes,

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they'll have vegetal notes,

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they kind of get all these different layers.

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- The 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano,

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that one is very creamy.

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They don't even disclose any of the--

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- No, I had to go into a couple of retailers

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to see what their flavor descriptions were.

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- Yeah?

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- And, both of these were like a couple that I read,

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this was like dark chocolate, cream, coffee.

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This one's like cream, nougat,

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even marshmallow.

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- The Habano?

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- The Habano, yeah.

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- The Maduro's more chocolatey.

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- Which makes sense.

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- They're both really good though.

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- And, especially because this...

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Especially, because this is San Andreas,

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I often think San Andreas has a lot of

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chocolatey notes to it.

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- For whatever reason,

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I pegged San Andreas with being more strength

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and I don't know why that is.

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- It's funny,

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because I would say I don't get strength from San Andreas,

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but I do...

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I do say that about Broadleaf,

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which is the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro, correct?

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- Sure, yeah.

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- I generally think if it's Broadleaf,

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it's gonna have a more punch,

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a little more of that dark coffee, dark chocolate,

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more robust,

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dare I say, smokey flavors.

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- I definitely was getting--

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- Taste like tobacco...

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- Yeah, I was definitely getting a smokey,

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almost like fire cured out of Maduro.

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- You don't say?

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Wow.

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Did you say fire cured?

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- Kind of like a...

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- And, I think that sometimes about Broadleaf.

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- Yeah, because it's Pennsylvania.

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- Yep.

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Almost sometimes that like Latakia Pipe Tobacco

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kind of notes,

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which is a...

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If you've never smelled Latakia,

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it's a...

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It's an immediately recognizable scent amongst tobaccos.

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I particularly really, really like it.

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It's why I like Laphroaig.

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- There's certain people that like smoke that on its own.

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And, I--

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- Oh, I've met a couple.

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- When I worked at the smoke shop,

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I was like, you just want Latakia?

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You don't want me to mix that with anything?

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He is like, yeah,

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no, just the Latakia.

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And, then he would pack his...

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- You feel like they all have to say it that way.

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Yeah, I just really want that Latakia.

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- Yeah, I just want...

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Yes.

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- Are you sure?

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Yeah.

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- Stop questioning me, you young stupid kid.

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- The heck is wrong with you, man.

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- And, then...

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- Go.

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- He would pack his bowl and light it up and I'm like okay.

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Alrighty, then.

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- You feel like they'll look at you and say...

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- Tina, you fat lard, come get some dinner.

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- Holy cow.

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The whole...

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- You can just smell--

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- A little Napoleon Dynamite

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and he dumps the whole tray of food over for the...

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Was Tina a llama, if I remember right?

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- Tina, eat.

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Eat the food.

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Eat the food.

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- Speaking of Broadleaf,

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it's so interesting to me that both of those plants

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are grown predominantly in the Connecticut River Valley

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and one is super light, and delicate, and thin,

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and the other is like a chunky bush,

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and super robust,

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and like thick, strong leaves.

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- Yeah, Broadleaf leaves.

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So, I'm totally enjoying all of these,

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100%.

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- I absolutely agree.

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- It's really hard--

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- All four are fantastic.

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- Really hard for me to say like, I don't know,

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sometimes I try to pick like a winner,

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like one that I gravitate towards,

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but I really can't.

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- Honestly, of the Big Brother, Little Brothers

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we've done so far,

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I would say these four cigars

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are ones that I would absolutely choose either option,

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any of these options,

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any time of day,

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and I'd be very happy.

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So, if you want a brand

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and a sort of Big Brother,

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Little Brother,

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if we can make it that,

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where you're really getting bang for buck

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on the Little Brother,

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this would be one of them.

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- Huge.

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- Huge.

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- Huge bang for buck.

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Now, I need to go try the other ones

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in the Blind Man's Bluff category,

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because I've clearly been sleeping on those

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way too long.

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- Let's get on the horn and order some boxes.

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- Yeah.

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Yes, please.

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And, again, the Lost & Found series is a total blast.

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I'm looking at their--

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- We're gonna call our finance department today and go,

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don't throw up if you see the credit card bill for today.

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- Yeah, they got the Instant Classic,

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the Pepper Cream Soda,

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and Just the Tip.

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- I have...

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I've had Just the Tip.

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- 15 Minutes, 15 Minutes of Fame?

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- I am a child and I don't care.

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- What is this--

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- But, I have not had the...

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Excuse me, I've not had the Pepper Cream Soda.

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Oh, that's the new Nightstand.

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Have you ever had those?

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- No.

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- I've had previous versions of the Night Stand,

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but I've not had this one.

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- So interesting.

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I'm assuming now they're just basically recreating

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the Pepper Cream Soda in all these,

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like the Instant Classic,

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all the good ones,

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which was funny, like you had said,

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Tony talked about smoking some cigars that were lost.

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They found him and then they said, no go.

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Like too far gone.

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- Too far gone, yeah.

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- Which I...

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I totally understand.

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But, I wonder if,

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we think of it as a bell curve,

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but I wonder if it's more of like a wave.

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Would it come back?

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Would it come back and be better?

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- I suppose it's possible.

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- I have no idea.

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- But, my guess would be no,

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but I suppose it's possible.

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- He did say though,

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like you know that funky basement, stale,

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kind of grassy...

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- Grandma's basement.

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- Yeah, grandma's basement.

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- That's what I'm...

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I'm remembering that one.

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- It's really hard to get away from that.

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As soon as that creeps in...

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- Absolutely.

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And, I have such strong memories

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of that like idea of grandma's basement,

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because I grew up with a very large extended family

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that all lived in the Minneapolis St. Paul area,

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and in the 60s, 70s and 80s

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they all had small homes,

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but fairly good sized families.

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So, when we'd all get together for a big Christmas party,

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we'd have sometimes, I don't know,

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close to a 100 people in a tiny house,

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and all of us kids would end up in the basement,

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because one of the great aunts always had like

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one of those stationary bikes.

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And, I remember distinctly one had the stationary bike

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that the pedals would keep turning

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once you got it going,

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so you'd put all your weight on one pedal

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and just bounce up and down like a crazy--

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- Stand on it.

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- Yes, like a crazy idiot.

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Grandma's basement is a very distinct memory for me.

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- See and then see if you can get two people on each pedal

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going up and down.

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- And, those memory--

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- Two people riding the bike.

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- Yeah, and those memories for me are great,

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because I think nowadays

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we think we have to have these huge houses

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in order to like host a lot of people.

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You absolutely do not.

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In fact, the best parties that you ever go to

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are in the tiniest places,

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because everyone always ends up in the kitchen,

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wherever the food is.

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Nobody ends up in the great room.

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And, nobody cares about the finished basement,

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because it's cold and empty.

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And, unless the whole party's there

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and there's like a lot of entertainment,

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you'd rather be where all the people are.

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And, so those tiny little houses are really nice,

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warming memories for me,

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because that was the idea of home,

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and all of them were unfinished basements for sure.

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And, they all had those like woven braided rugs

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that were like eponymous in Midwestern Scandinavian homes

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that got passed down to the kids.

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Yeah, they're...

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It's just great memories

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and tiny little couches.

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In fact, my grandma used to always call one of her couches

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the davenport.

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I have no idea where that term came from,

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but it wasn't a couch or a sofa.

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The davenport.

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Where the heck did that name come from?

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- I don't know, but it's definitely old school.

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- Do you wanna sit in the davenport?

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No, this couch is not very comfortable.

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- Did you have a grandmother

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that put plastic on the couch at all?

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- Thank, God, no.

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- I did.

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- I had neighbors that had that.

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- I did.

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I had a grandma that put plastic on the couch.

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Boy, that thing looked good for a long time.

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- Sure, it did.

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And, the plastic was gnarly.

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Like I had a neighbor that had plastic on the furniture

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and they were smokers, cigarette smokers.

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And, it was orange.

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Oh, it was so gross.

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Height of summer

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and you're just glued to that freaking couch.

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You're like, ugh.

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- You know what?

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To be honest though,

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I just don't see the point.

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What's the point of putting the plastic on there?

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You gotta look at that every day.

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It looks ugly.

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- It's like how should I have a formal dining room.

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- Yeah.

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- What a useless thing to have in a house,

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like we have this one room that nobody can go in,

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because you have all the fine China and all the fancy stuff,

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and you maybe have dinner there, what?

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Christmas and Easter maybe?

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- And, Thanksgiving.

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- Nobody wants to touch...

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Like, don't you dare lean back in a chair.

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Ugh.

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- No, thank you. - So dumb.

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But, as they say, to each their own.

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- Right, yeah.

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Whatever.

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- I would rather have a nice small, comfortable home

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and be able to spend money on cigars like this,

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than to have all my money tied up in a bunch of stuff.

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That's just me.

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- Yeah, and you're so...

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What was funny too is when we were talking to Tony,

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he is like, oh, yeah,

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I'm kind of a cigar hoarder.

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And, I was like, oh,

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you are talking to the hoarder killer over here, Nate.

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He will smoke them if you got him.

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- Let me lose on your collection

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and I will make a significant dent.

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- Which I don't know if Tony was offering that up.

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If there's anything you really like, I probably have it.

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Well, alright.

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You want it smoked?

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Send it our way.

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- Let's text him.

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- Let's text him now.

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Oh, by the way,

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we want some originals of the Pepper Cream Soda and the...

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- You bored with your stuff, Tony?

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I can help.

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- The cool thing about that is

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I'm sure what he gets a kick out of

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is sharing it with people who enjoy it.

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If there's somebody who's like, oh,

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I really liked this and I can't find it anymore.

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And, then he's the guy that can be like, yeah,

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I got that.

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I think that's why there's Herf-a-Dor and...

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Or mooch-a-dors and regular humidors.

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Like I always have a mooch-a-dor

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but I then...

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- I have one here at the office.

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- Yeah, I peg people for that, right?

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- Yep.

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- They're not when come super into cigars.

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- Yeah, when I come back from the cigar shows,

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they're always cigars that I enjoy,

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but I'm probably not gonna smoke nearly as often.

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Put some of those in the mooch-a-dor, take some home,

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smoke them every now and then

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just to make sure I try lots of different cigars,

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but then you have stuff that isn't gonna break the bank

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and stuff that other people are gonna really love

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and be able to try.

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And, you put it in that humidor.

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- That's my favorite is when somebody is a cigar smoker,

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and then I pull something out,

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and they're like, whoa.

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- And, then both Rob and I have a drawer here at work

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where we put the nice stuff.

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- Yes.

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- And, every once in a while,

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we break those out if we really wanna wow people,

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and then it's there for our enjoyment.

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What do you get in there, Nate?

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Nothing.

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- Or, yeah, just for yourself.

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It's like, dude, long week.

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Bust out the good humidor.

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Yeah.

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- What's Nate smoking on Tuesday?

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Something good.

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- Something good.

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It's been a good one.

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Been a long week on Tuesday?

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Oh, shit.

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Oh, man.

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So, let us know what you think we should be doing

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with the Long Lived The Queen.

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And, if you've tried any of these cigars,

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leave a comment which one you like below.

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And, as always, protect your humidors

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with Boveda. - Boveda.

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- Cheers and have a great weekend.

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- Have a great weekend, folks.